#48 Followup to 1987 off world experience.
UPDATE to my 1987 Urantia Experience.
I wanted to post this information a long time ago but to be honest it has taken nearly two years for me to understand most of the implications to the followup.
You have read my previous post about my individualized experience “off world” to a place known as the Sea of Glass where I met with a being I know as “Michael” a Creator Son and my brother.
I did not publish everything that took place in my off world experience in order to keep some of the information for a day when humanity could actually appreciate what I learned. I have discussed some of it privately with a handful of individuals. Some took it well … others could not handle it and went into denial. I’ve never heard from them again and I suppose that is a risk in disclosing thought to those not ready to at least keep an open mind. I thought those individuals were ready. Sadly, I was wrong.
This publication is not that information.
This followup information is specific to a message given to me from a third party which validated to me that the caretakers of this world are listening. I was beginning to wonder if they existed at all.
First I wish to disclose once again that from the time I first publicly released my 1987 experience much has happened to me with very unusual life experiences. Those will be part of my autobiographical writing which I am making available on this site.
As a result of many of those unusual experiences I eventually was to experience an unfortunate interaction with US Federal authority where I was charged with a series of federal criminal charges that were unfounded, but eventuated into my being convicted of a non crime and sent to prison for 60 months, a serious amount of time. It wasn’t pleasant, but it did lead to many more important life experiences.
The justice system has for some time been very broken, in my opinion and the opinion of many others numbering in the millions. I found myself on the receiving end of that judicial shortcoming.
Long story short, I was collectively prosecuted with a group of others in a classic charge of “conspiracy to defraud” the government of something which they were unable to quantify. Over years and during a very difficult trial the government’s position was that “we” were conspiring to defraud the government of taxes as tax cheats, even though they could not prove that. It is the label that sticks to this day.
My position is it never was true. My co defendants know that too. But the life experience of going to prison was something I now value in a Urantia Book based value system. I learned things about myself and others I could not have gained outside in what inmates call the “outside world” or “the street”.
I would love to relate all of those valuable experiences but this writing is about the followup to the 1987 experience. Prison though is part of the mix. I have no shame about that experience as I know it was not based in fact. You can read more in the menu tab at the top of each page about my live in this time frame.
So, to update the 1987 information I begin:
In about January of 2010, while enjoying the Camp prison facility at the SuperMax Complex in Florence , Colorado, I was teaching a course in Urantia Book material and related subjects found within that same book in an encoded format I have coined sub-text.
It had taken me two years to get the Bureau of Prisons authority to allow me to formally teach Urantia Book material since it is not a religion. I found a way to have it incorporated into their approved religious materials and began to make the knowledge available to anyone who wanted it.
The various religious doctrines followed by other inmates were always at odds with my teaching Urantia based material, with small groups of inmates declaring that “their” knowledge was the “right” knowledge about “God”. Then along comes me basically saying they are all right in many ways and they are all missing something important.
I became a focus from many followers of other doctrines as being as one inmate put it in the chow hall one day … ” David! I have a message direct from god that YOU are going straight to hell for teaching all that blasphemy!”
I listened and simply asked, “Have you read the Urantia Book?”
His answer was the same I got from everyone who had similar opinions of me … “No! I don’t need to read it to know what it says!”
To which I asked politely … ” So … what is the message of the Book?”
The answer was ...” What do you mean what is the message?”
I asked differently, “What is the main idea contained in the Urantia Book for people to learn?”
The answer was always … ” I don’t know.”
I then asked, “What is the message in your book?” which most often was the Bible, Koran or Book of Mormon … but usually the Bible, King James Version.
I usually was told it was to believe that Jesus was the son of God and through accepting his sacrificial blood we are saved otherwise we were going to hell or were not going to be “saved”.
Others claimed that anything NOT from the bible or their particular book was a false teaching from the devil.
My usual response was that the UB teaches us three basic things 1- God wants us to love Him of our own free will. 2- He wants us to love our fellow men/women as we love ourselves. 3- He wants us to love each other as He loves us. (Of course there is much more but that is the bottom line.)
The final response I would usually get is … ” YOUR book doesn’t teach that! It’s about UFO’s!”
I eventually became known as “Space Guy” and was placed in the category as “nut job”. All because I was making the UB material available.
The head of the prison Buddhist philosophy took an interest in my UB class. His spiritual title was as a “Buddah” which is a kind of titular head of a teaching group. He came to my classes and in return I went to his Buddhist classes.
I actually went to everyone’s classes and services to better know what people thought. After all, I was in a place where I could get a concentrated experience in various religions.
Over several months until I was to leave prison in August, I was able to get the man to read ALL of the Urantia Book. We had many discussions. His final opinion was that the UB was probably a valid text and he had no problem with it from his background as a biblical scholar and, as he put it, “ a Buddhist who loves Jesus“. That designation is story unto itself!
About one month before I was to be relocated to an outside “halfway house” in Colorado the Buddhist came to me with a dilemma. He had a very important decision to make involving over one billion dollars. He wanted to ask the Urantia caretakers known as Melchizedeks to give him an answer to one question involving his dilemma. He asked if I could assist, considering my experiences with the material. I told him I was not in communication with such entities, but I knew someone who was.
I sent his question as a request to a friend in California who has known me for over 20 years. My friend is well known in the UB community and as a favor sent my request to those in communication with the Melchizidek known as Machiventa.
Surprisingly, to all concerned with the message process, the answer that was returned was … nothing.
NO answer of any kind. I was told that this was the first time such a thing had occurred in the communication process. My friend relayed that non answer to me and the result was very negative from my experience when I gave the non answer to the Buddhist leader.
His reaction was anger. I’d never seen him angry. He basically screamed that he had taken the time to learn all he could about the UB material and the “high and mighty” “supposedly compassionate” Melchizideks couldn’t even answer, for lowly him, one question involving humanity? He declared to me the UB must be false information even if very convincing and centered in what felt like truth.
He never talked with me again regarding the material.
I was transferred to the halfway house on August 4th, 2010. I was there only a couple of days when I was visited by a nephew who lived in the same city. My nephew knew nothing about my 1987 experience. He knew nothing about the UB other than he’d heard of it.
When he visited me, he said up front he had a message for me that he’d received in a very powerful vision about one month earlier. On later questioning ,I learned the vision he received was from the same day as I had sent the written question to my friend in California.
My nephew related the following message and description:
[Paraphrased] ” I was standing on a cobalt blue crystal material that looked like water but it was solid. It was a kind of glass. I looked up in the sky and saw lots of stars. More than here and in no patterns I’d ever seen before. I looked down and it was like daylight but it was a night sky.
There were lots of beings around me standing on the glass … and in front of me, on a small green, grassy hillside I saw YOU! [meaning me]
You were in the middle of a golden white light coming from a man behind you. Above you were several other beings that I thought might be angels but a voice was telling me they were Melchizideks. They were watching over the events between you and the man called Michael.
They said they were showing me this at the time it took place so I could tell you so you would know it was a real message.
The message is ” You made the right choice and we will help you as we can.”
That was it. The whole message in answer to a question they received from me.
Now, as the late Paul Harvey might have said is the rest of the story:
The number one RULE in our Universe of Universes is respect for creature freewill.
The question we had asked HAD to be one of that individual’s freewill without interference.
The Melchizideks did answer the question at the time it was asked ,but arranged to have it delivered in a delayed fashion so that free will was respected. They demonstrated time and space are relative and can be manipulated. [NOTE: see my writings on time and space in the Past lives section.]
They did not actually answer the question my Buddhist friend asked … they answered my unspoken question at the time he had given me the formal written question.
My question was that my Buddhist friend was making a mistake and should I tell him. At the time I chose not to tell him.
Their answer to me through my nephew, was that I made the right choice … for me.
Now, just what was my result that they said they would help me with when they could? I have yet to discover.
The wealthy Buddhist had said he would give me a great deal of financial assistance in philanthropy. Because of his non-answer he withdrew that promise and I was left on my own. Not very consistent with his avowed teachings.
I had decided to help humanity as best I could in keeping with the teachings of the UB material.
As of today’s post I’m beginning to understand what help may look like.